English?, идея, которая носится в воздухе

[Last Unicorn >>>]

ПРикл?На английском? Ой мама...

*упала*

Я бы поиграла, но исключительно с переводчиком...А так..Вы же мне потом переведете что написали, да?)А то я в Линейке не могу квесты перевести, а они-прикл...

[Кысь >>>]

Моя все-таки против квестового модуля ) Просто потому что он не отвечает моим представлениям о приятной языковой практике - я и на русском-то за такое не сяду ) А уж в варианте с фиксированными профессиями/заклинаниями...
Добавочные поводы "против" - чрезмерная нагрузка ) Имхо чем рельсовее модуль тем лучше: можно заниматься практикой языка и получать удовольствие от словесной игры, не отвлекаясь на "шахматы". К тому же офункционаливание резко сузит диапазон допустимого трепа )

А вот вариант Кристал мне очень нравится ) И даже персонаж уже придумался

[дон Алесандро >>>]

Oh, it's so funny; there are no any English words in a discussion of English prikl...

I think, that i am some kind of glutton , but... i bring myself to join to this prikl.
I agree with Kt ( ) that we need rail prikl, it's most easily understood prikl for us, and it's practice of our English. In quest-model, we could lose sight of the fact that actually we need to do...
Now, about the plot, I believe that we need simple plot, just as Dakmor or Crystal says, intricate plot could smashed all our ideas))
As a matter of fact the idea of Crystal is one's liking, I’ve already see the insidious councilor of the king... could I occupied this role?

best regards, me.

[Daelinn >>>]

дон Алесандро

First, you are not right - there are English words in this discussion, if you have read my second post here.

Then, the councilor of the king. Whom do you ask? We haven't chosen the Master yet Vote?
As Crystal's idea seems to be the most popular one, let's stick to it and start writing quentar (this is the plural for the Elvish word quenta) and post them here. Not very long - just the general idea of your character and his/her appearance. That would be the first test of our ability to describe peope and their actions according to the Prikl requirements.

[Кысь >>>]

I do not use english here cause I'm not quite sure that I can achieve the level we need to make things clear =) I don't want to use dictionaries or something and my own level of English is too low to get along without it )
I'm thinking about a circus dancer. She calls herself Gitana. Very small and slightly built, she has olive-dark skin and brown gazelle eyes. She is over twenty, but looks more like a child. Her long painted skirt flutters when she is walking barefooted and with her hair let down.
I am not pretty sure about grammar in that message but now I do not have any opportunity to use my books - you know =|.

Masters... Crystal or Linnad? Or Crystal&Linnad? %))))))))

Сообщение отредактировал Китти - 10-02-2006, 13:14

Присоединённые эскизы

[дон Алесандро >>>]

Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot about it, but that part of English text, is not a discussion of prikl, it’s just a test of the pen.
Election of the masterы? OKEY! I vote for both* *(upd 15.01)
Test of my ability to describe people and their actions according to the Prikl requirements? With a great pleasure.

My character,
His honor, lord Kessertin of Keran.

Medium height, thin, with correct features, light brown hair up to shoulders, and brown eyes. He is usually dressed in modest robe to toe, lord Keran has a strange ability, to go completely silently on any surface. He is extremely polite; no one ever heard that lord Keran raised the voice. However it does not prevent him, more likely on the contrary. Unique weakness of his lordship is ornaments, his fingers are covered with rings, in hair he carries a silver hoop, and the twisted gold circuit chain on his breast.

Сообщение отредактировал дон Алесандро - 12-02-2006, 9:01

[Crystal >>>]

Well, I'm really glad that my idea is so popular. So be it.
Right now in my thoughts was born Litar - young hunter, who provides king's kitchen with meat. He's about eighteen years old, with bronze skin, long brown hairs and attentive blue eyes. Rather tall, he mooves very quiet, so hunter's success never leave him. Leather clothes is most preferable to him. Litar lost his parents when he was a child, so he is closed in himself and very independent.

Сообщение отредактировал Crystal - 10-02-2006, 11:31

[Daelinn >>>]

(судя по последним постам, вырисовывается картина маслом и сыром: "Цензоры решили поиграть. Модеры в шоке.")


So, what is the setting? A small province in a fantasy world (I mean, is magic possible?) where the ruler (king? no, rather a baron or a high lord) starts to do strange things. This tiny realm is somewhat isolated from others (or not?) and the action concentrates in the residence of this lord (a town).

Do you agree that races other than human are allowed? Are there witches/wizards and healers using divine powers?

дон Алесандро
Who is he in the hierarchy? The ruler himself, the cousellor, or just a lord from another town of the province?

[дон Алесандро >>>]

(так с нами и модеры вроде, не? )

about magic in set, well, let me propose two possibilities,
1) standart version, wizards\witches etc. welcomes and lives as a usually citizens...
2) mysticism version, healers, shamans and conjurers welcomes, but they doesn't lives in towns... or lives but they doesn't like to demonstrate their power...

to Daelinn

well, I suppose that he is a councilor of the king\baron\other ruler.
he just give some e-e-e... consultations to the ruler...

[Father Monk >>>]

Jesus Christ, and you are really supposing that I'm going to play with ya?.. It's already a hard work for me just to read you discussion (only discussion - what will I do in game itself?!) and to understand all the words, especially when Crystal and don Alessandro gave a description of their personages...

To all

People, you are stock in the word "module". It's not a MODULE. It was just an example of the game's technique. There would be no statistics of the module, no alignments and no rules of AD&D or whatever! I repeat, it was just an EXAMPLE of how we could do a game.

So, if everybody is agreed with an idea of Crystal, I want to ask Crystal to give us the whole picture of her visions by herself. Plot, some abstract decorations or what?.. Because I didn't understand.

Ingar

Yeah, I do not remember too

[Dakmor >>>]

I've missed some "action" here as I can see. Excuse my having done so.

I'm standing on Father Monk's point of view - I also would like to read a more concrete defifnition of "initial conditions" so to say.

And about masters - I didn't catch whether it is decided about Crystal and Daelinn or not? My vote belongs to this Master Group. I'm asking, 'cause I have some questions and ideas about the character... (or maybe I'm asking just to make the post three line length). Still this is a question.

Thanks again, Father, for your explanations concerning modules and AD&D but it seems to me that they are vain. You are trying to struggle with the mysteries of human psyhology. Let it be as it is.

Сообщение отредактировал Dakmor - 10-02-2006, 20:21

[Daelinn >>>]

*Tries to resist the wild desire to correct all the mistakes she sees*

Don Alesandro
Frankly speaking, I would prefer the situation when gifted people live among others, who are often afraid of "witches", but still come to them for help and advice.


Seril
~30 years old
A lady with good looks, dark hair and attentive eyes, which sometimes make people shiver. She is rather pleasant when you come to know her better, but enemies say she's a witch and dangerous to deal with. These allegations have made her cautious and reserved, never talking much to strangers, leading quiet life in the outskirts of the town. There she spins wool, gathers herbs, makes mixtures and sings softly in the evenings.
Those who have came to her old house, painted dark-green, believe that it is her enchantment that heals them rather than herb infusions. Perhaps they are not much mistaken. Who knows?

Dressed in a woollen gown, Seril is usually seen in the streets at dusk and at dawn, often carrying a small bag or two. That has been her habit since she came to live here. Some say, her parents have sent her away, others keep telling tales about her family in whisper.


© Larry Elmore

[Crystal >>>]

Hmpf, it seems, that I've missed something? You are talking about me as about the master? Honestly speaking, it frightens me:)
But well, back to business. I agree with Daelinn and voute for
дон Алесандро's mysticism version.
As for the world for the game - let it be a small kingdom. And all will happen in the residence of king - in the capital town. About different races - I just don't know. If someone wants to play with an elf character - why not? As for me it does not matter.
Dakmor
I guess, you are free to create your character as you wish.

Сообщение отредактировал Crystal - 11-02-2006, 11:45

[Daelinn >>>]

We have:
Lord Kessertin of Keran, king's cousellor - don Alesandro
Gitana, circus dancer - Kt
Litar, young hunter - Crystal
Seril, witch/healer - Daelinn

[upd.]
The king Robert do Rei and his wife Klarissa do Rei will be NPC.
We now need his young son/daughter. [/upd.]

Then... if you agree, I would name the theme "Misty Areinor" as an allusion to the Misty Albion, the prikl being played in the language of this land.

I would also suggest the following introduction:


***
Once upon a time in this world, lost in the depth of our memories, a lord was crossing strange lands in search of advantures. He was lucky to find one – there was a quarrel between the town mayors and villagers, which he managed to settle by fair judgement. The people were so happy and grateful that offered this lord the title of a king and all the lands around. And the whole realm lived happily ever after…

Thus the legends say. We won't deny minstrels' words, but we can tell what we know for sure.
In the hot summer of the year 361 in the local reckoning rumors began to spread across the country. The king's subjects blamed their suzerain, even nature seemed to protest, hardly resisting the heat. Farmers waited for the coming autumn in fear, expecting the harvest to be as small as never. But that was usual for those people, hoping for the best and expecting the worst. The strange thing was that King Robert do Rei left Areinor – the capital town where his Rosa residence was situated – together with his closest consellor, and then returned, followed by a silent group of people, who settled in the Rosa. The king then withdrew from social affairs and was rarely seen at feasts, nothing to say about those petitioners who sought in vain to have an audience with him. And the rumor was that those "lucky" ones who had been eventually admitted to the grand halls of Rosa never returned, or became silent and thoughtful with mad fire burning in their eyes. Those didn't live long either.

The king's guards walked the streets watching merchants in their shops, citizens hurrying at work and children playing in small front gardens. All suspicious people were taken to prison or fined. The tension grew every day, intensified by hot weather and no rainy clouds in sight…
***


Then it comes to don Alesandro performing a ritual in the forest, Crystal evesdropping and spying upon him (unintentionally) and... well, each one will find his/her own to join the game.

Сообщение отредактировал Daelinn - 11-02-2006, 21:57

[Ingar >>>]

I think it's time for me to write a quenta.
Name: John do Rei
Prince, son of Robert and his wife, John grew as a very happy boy. But, at the age of 12 awfull fever put him to bed. he was ill for two month. His parents were very frightened, best healers from all the regions couldn't help John. Everybody was sure, that he won't reach his 13th birthday. But he survived.
John had overcome the disease, but it left a trace on his costitution. Healthy, strong boy turned into a weak, ailing creature.
He lived in his apartments, rarely leavin them and never - the castle. John spent much time in the library, reading books and talking with an old librarian.
When Robert left Areinor John was fifteen...

[Lustration >>>]

Oh, no! I'm late... It's awful. Perhaps, could you pay a bit of attention to my modest person? As I see the position of king's son\daughter is not available. Already. Maybe you won't mind my incoming as a king's healer or anything like that. The idea of such a prikl is gorgeous, I think. I look forward to your replying and then, if you let me participate, of course, write my quenta. Yep?

P.S. My level is B at CAE (Advanced English).

[Daelinn >>>]

Некоторая вводная информация для участников. На русском, чтобы не было недопонимания.

Ingar – prince John do Rei
Несколько лет назад принц серьезно заболел, и никто не мог не только вылечить его, но и понять, что является причиной странной болезни. На его счастье, королю удалось найти целительницу, известную и уважаемую в своей деревне. Принцу полегчало, и с тех пор женщина находилась при нем, приглядывая за слабым и болезненным юношей – недуг так полностью и не прошел. Джон проводил много времени в библиотеке и вычитывал из старинных трактатов многое, что не было известно мудрейшим в городе – королевская библиотека славилась своим собранием редких книг и свитков.

Lustration – Lune, king's family healer
Прославленная целительница, узнав о несчастье королевской семьи, высказала желание помочь – и ей сопутствовал успех. Став "семейным доктором", она продолжала приглядывала за принцем, т.к. болезнь не была полностью побеждена. Ее хороше знают в городе, а король души не чает в спасительнице. В то же время Lune чувствует неприязнь со стороны королевского советника, однако не может понять, в чем дело. В настоящее время она работает над лекарством для принца, что ещё больше бесит Керана.

Crystal – Litar, young hunter
Юный охотник, подслушавший тихий разговор лорда Керана еще с кем-то в лесу. Тихо ретировавшись, он начинает собирать друзей и рассказывать о случившемся. Работая снабженцем королевской кухни, из разговоров прислуги кое-что знает о ситуации и настроениях в правящей семье и окружении.

Kitti – Gitana, circus dancer
Помня старинные сказания о доброте и справедливости правителя, собирается идти на аудиенцию к королю с просьбой освободить одного из участников ее цирковой группы, посаженного в тюрьму "ни за что ни про что". На ее счастье, на подходе к Rosa с ней сталкивается Литар и, узнав о цели визита, предупреждает об опасности.

Olorin – Edwin Clanter, antiques merchant
Торговец антиквариатом, среди посетителей которого довольно часто наблюдалось лицо лорда Керана. Тот никогда не выспрашивал о чем-то конкретном, однако внимательно осматривал имеющийся товар. В лавку иногда заглядывали и просто праздные любопытные горожане, поэтому со многими жителями знаком.

Сообщение отредактировал Daelinn - 19-02-2006, 15:56

[Олорин >>>]

Wait for me!

Edwin Clanter is antiques merchant. He started his "career" when he was fifteen year old. First, he worked as an assistant in a small book shop. Then he was asked to find a very rare book for their permanent client. Doing it, he met an antiques merchant, who invited him to work together. For some years Edwin was travelling all over the country buying and selling different stuff. After all he managed to save a good amount of money and started his own business. Now his company is one of the most respectable and successful.
Edwin is about thirty years old. He is quite tall (185 cm), has short brown hair. No beard or moustache. His eyes are green. He usually wears plain clothes of dark colours. He is always polite and greetful. Nevertheless, his real thoughts and emotions are always hidden.

Сообщение отредактировал Олорин - 19-02-2006, 18:55

[Lustration >>>]

Name: Luana Britt, usually named Lune
Age: 27
Lune wanted to be a healer from the very young age. It was her passionate aspiration. The girl grew into a lovely, tall and slim woman with dark long hair till the waist. she had wonderful and strange brown eyes - shining from the inside at night, but dark and lifeless in daytime. Luana was a very, very talented healer and she was only happy healing poor people in her native village. But the cruel time came. The son of do Rei fell terribly ill. And Lune's parents suggested their daughter to offer some help to the reighning family.
Of course, Lune couldn't do much but she tried hard. and eventually Rei's son escaped from the cold arms of Death with a bit of woman's help. Unfortunately, the desease wasn't overcome completely and there were remindings of the hard time. The king was thankful and made Lune his family's healer. She could help the boy, make his pain go away ahd the woman was working hard to make the cure... But Luana didn't forget about her past. She went on helping the poor and curing, which was her real passion.

[Daelinn >>>]

Я могу показаться очень вредной и придирчивой, но давайте соблюдать аутентичную пунктуацию?
Все то же самое, что в русской прямой речи, но вместо тире ставятся кавычки. Либо одинарные '...' либо двойные "...".

Пример:
(взято из открытой наугад книги J.Grisham "The Client")

"We need to get him to a hospital," he said.
Mark's knees went weak and he leaned on the wall. Dianne hung up and Hardy met her in the kitchen. "The doctor wants him at the hospital," she said in panic.
"I'll call an ambulance," Hardy said, heading for his car. "Pack a few clothes." He disappeared and left the door open.
Dianne glared at Mark, who was weak and needed to sit. He fell into a chair at the kitchen table.
"Are you telling the truth?" she asked.

Сообщение отредактировал Daelinn - 26-02-2006, 17:48